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PostSubject: DISCUSSION - Tires   31/1/2008, 7:17 pm

Some info on tyre...

Once you've got your rims picked out, you've got to wrap some rubber around them. There are several things to contemplate when selecting tires for your ride. Considering the fact that the only part of the car that actually touches the ground is the tires, the decision of which ones to go with is an important one. The last thing you want to do is install a below-average set of treads on your new rims. That would take any performance advantage you're getting from the upgrade and toss it right out the window! The two major areas of concern when choosing a set of tires is getting the correct size for the rim, and determining the performance level required.

A quick look at Sport Compact Only's tire selection makes it clear that tire sizes are expressed as three numbers separated by slashes, such as 205/40/17. What do these numbers mean? Let's take a quick look at how the 205/40/17 tire size information reads. The first number, in this case "205," specifies the tire's width in millimeters from the widest point of the outer sidewall, to the widest point of its inner sidewall. The second number specifies the tire's sidewall height (from rim to tread) as a percentage of the tire's width. In our example, the "40" indicates that this tire's sidewall height is 40% of its width. This second number is often referred to as the tire's series or profile. Higher numbers mean a taller profile sidewall; lower numbers mean a lower profile sidewall. Low profile tires (most performance tires) have a short and wide contact patch that provides very responsive handling, cornering stability, and traction. Finally, the third number, (the "17" in our example) specifies the tire's inner diameter in inches and needs to match the diameter of the rim it will be installed on.

Evaluating a tire's performance, durability, and endurance capabilities are simplified a bit by the UTQGS (The Uniform Tire Quality Grading System). It was developed by the US Government to supply consumers with tire information so they can get exactly what they need from their treads. Under the UTQGS guidelines, tires are graded by their manufacturers in three specific areas: treadwear, traction, and temperature. The treadwear number is related to the density of the tire's treadwear compound. Low treadwear numbers mean softer tread compounds. Performance tires are typically softer for better performance, but will wear faster. Tires with high mileage warranties will have high treadwear numbers for maximum life. For example, a tire with a 400 treadwear should have its useful tread last twice as long as a tire graded 200, but will not stick to the road as well. Another thing to remember is to only compare treadwear numbers within a specific brand. Testing procedures vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, so results will also differ slightly. Traction scores signify the tire's capability to stop on wet pavement. Testing is performed under controlled conditions on both concrete and asphalt surfaces. Traction grades are AA (the highest), A, B, and C (the lowest), and do not reflect cornering or handling performance. The temperature grades represent both the tire's resistance to, and ability to dissipate, heat. Temperature grades include A (again, the highest), B, and C, "C" being the minimum performance required by federal safety standards.

The UTQGS rating system is a great view into what you can generally expect from a tire, but there other destructive powers at work. Variations in driving habits, road conditions, air pressure maintenance, vehicle alignment, tire balance, and regional climate can directly affect tire life.


Topic Wheel Discussion & Tyre Info has merge together & edited. TQ - Shamiin22
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   31/1/2008, 7:43 pm

Jln Kapar, Klang byk kedai.
try pi memane kedai dulu survey,
pastu dah boring pi Hock Li atau Ban Hoe,
tgk harga die camne pegi.

akupon xtau harga murah kat negara mane,
tapi dah korang kate kat klang, aku rase tu je la kedai rim termurah n ok.
tapi ade kedai lain tu half cut nye rim pon 1.8K!
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   31/1/2008, 7:48 pm

MuRah Tuh....agak2 baper inci?
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   31/1/2008, 8:07 pm

ark? half cut,ori japan.
dah skim bagai sume kot.
byk jeniz.
kalo x silap tu ari aku pi survey kat kazuto

http://www.kazutogarage.com/

org kate mahal, taktau la kalo ade tempat lagik murah.
1.8k for rim sahaja.
yg aku tau la,sori x brape mahir sgt dlm hal2 camni.
juz wana share what i know
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   31/1/2008, 8:18 pm

hrm....igt skali tyr coz standed hlf cut dtg skali tayar..aku dpt 17 inch half cut dl rm 1.6k skali tyr 2nd hand..tp tgk luck la, tayar kalo ok, ok..kao botak, botak gak arr pale nk tukar..huhu
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   31/1/2008, 8:40 pm

eh aku nye tayar kalo jalan berpusing a,
kalo aku biase jln kaki die gerak kanan kiri kanan kiri.
kalo naik kete 4-4 tayar skalik pusing.. aduh...

nak tany sket ek,
kalo kite tukar spring, kene wat alignment ke?
kalo die bukak spring bagai ade fx alignment ke?
coz aku rase cam same jek, xdek lari memane.
tapi stengah org kate kalo tuka spring pon kene wat elemen.
so any pendapatan? takut a plak kalo fx memane part lain kan..
:No No No No No No No No No No No No no:
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   5/2/2008, 1:14 am

nampaknye tiada jawapan.
so xpe, aku bg lagi satu soklan,
ape pendapatan korang ttg tayar ni?
affraid

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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   5/2/2008, 9:51 am

gorgon1383 wrote:
eh aku nye tayar kalo jalan berpusing a,
kalo aku biase jln kaki die gerak kanan kiri kanan kiri.
kalo naik kete 4-4 tayar skalik pusing.. aduh...

nak tany sket ek,
kalo kite tukar spring, kene wat alignment ke?
kalo die bukak spring bagai ade fx alignment ke?
coz aku rase cam same jek, xdek lari memane.
tapi stengah org kate kalo tuka spring pon kene wat elemen.
so any pendapatan? takut a plak kalo fx memane part lain kan..
:No No No No No No No No No No No No no:


Setiap kali sistem pengantungan di buka atau diservis, adalah seeloknya anda membuat pemeriksaan alignment. Begitu juga sekiranya anda menukar penyerap hentak atau gegelung. Ini kerana allignment kereta anda kemungkinan besar akan menyimpang dari ukuran sebenar. Ini akan mengakibatkan kesan kepada sistem yang lain. Antara komponen yang akan terjejas ialah tayar tidak berjalan dengan sekata menyebabkan tayar tersebut haus tidak sekata. Chamber anda juga akan terjejas sekiranya perkara ini tidak diselengara dengan secepat mungkin. Pada ketika ini, kemungkinan pemanduan anda menjadi tidak menentu. Akhir kata, sekiranya perkara ini tidak diselenggara dengan secepat mungkin, ia akan menghakis duit di dalam poket anda.
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   6/2/2008, 11:34 pm

ok tq mat juan
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PostSubject: Your Tires?   27/2/2008, 9:18 am

i would like to ask u guys... normally what type of tyres did u used... and what type of tyre that u think better tu fit into our sportrim, i mean heavy duty, reliable and most important no skidding while conering.... coz sometimes tyre lifespend much faster, and some tyre also skidding while raining or during cornering..


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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 9:40 am

if possible put the pice together... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 9:57 am

Agreed with zudin.......
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 4:35 pm

holaa..

Let me start first.

Date of purchase: Feb 2008
Location of purchase: Klang Ban Hooi
Brand of rim/version: ST2 Lightweight (Taiwan brand)
Size of rim: 17"
Tyre brand: Silverstone M5
Tyre specification: 205/40/17
Price for rim/set: RM 1800/set
Price for tyre/set: RM 180/pcs
Price for center cone: RM 80
Price for lock nut: RM 120
Price for Nitrogen gas: -
Price for alignment: FOC
Price for balancing: FOC
Price for stainless steel or rubber air valve: FOC
Price for adjust chamber: FOC
Price for the whole package: RM 2500 after Discount
Brand Suspension : Adjustable (HWL)
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 4:43 pm

bro, only RM180 size 17" so cheap......
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 5:37 pm

tranz: that why i ask Boot to buy 17" sport rim... 17" and 16" weight is almost the same... price also almost the same... so 16" is not worthy and if want my advice better go for 15" or 17"...
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 5:40 pm

that why bro, price is unbelieveable.... is that papa's shop or dunlop's... but i'm looking forward to fit 17" insyallah......
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 6:03 pm

tranz : yesterday got one member uin 16", his tyre price much more expensive than mine..

p/s - we myviXtreme!! must use 17 inch..x XTREME if 16"or 15" Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 7:09 pm

bro, that consider insulting me hahahahha.....

waiting for money to fit in...
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 11:39 pm

Im using 195/50/16....
tyre (195/50/16 - continental) + sport rim(k speed 16') + lock nut(16 lock nut) + center cone + stainless steel air valve +improve lowered sport spring + balancing + alignment + lock chamber(high quality nut) =RM 2 000 sharp....

At Jln Kapar....
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   27/2/2008, 11:42 pm

EzD wrote:
tranz : yesterday got one member uin 16", his tyre price much more expensive than mine..

p/s - we myviXtreme!! must use 17 inch..x XTREME if 16"or 15" Twisted Evil

Continental tyre for sure is rm190 for 16" rim... hehe
erm, if 17" rim, the price is around rm180 for silverstone... coz silverstone is cheapo...lol!
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   28/2/2008, 10:28 am

im using 17' rim... falken ziex tyre ...rm240 per pcs..
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   28/2/2008, 12:52 pm

for sure silverstone M5 tyre are the cheapest... if 195/55/15 price is around RM110 - 125.


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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   28/2/2008, 1:01 pm

so, i guess we can't compare silverstoner m5 rm 180 with continental rm 190 coz quality isn't sme... but what ezd got is cheap.... unbelievable coz pilot preceda2 (michelin) 205/45/16 is RM280 per pcs and 205/40/17 is RM320 per pcs...
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   28/2/2008, 1:02 pm

that why.... i feel weird coz he got it cheap....
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PostSubject: Re: DISCUSSION - Tires   28/2/2008, 1:38 pm

this evening will be looking for rim..

maybe 17 or 16..

hehehehe..
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